Quit pointing fingers, justifying why and stirring the pot. Everything is being talked about at great lengths regarding Harvest except for Who the body of Christ should be praying to, talking about and quoting. Lina has every right to speak her truth . Good word, my sister. | Photo: Harvest Bible Chapel Facebook The Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability has suspended Chicago-area megachurch Harvest Bible Church following the firing of its longtime pastor James MacDonald and amid ongoing revelations that the ministry had misappropriated funds. School of the Bible at 9:00am Wednesdaysat 7:00pm Give Online Contact Us 10088 N. Highway 99 Stockton, CA 95212 office@hbcstockton.org (209) 931-9548 Copyright 2023, Harvest Bible Church. Though MacDonald initially opted to step away from all preaching and leadership roles at the churchs Chicago-area locations, in his January 16 sabbatical announcement he suggested he might still preach at a Harvest congregation in Naples, Florida, which led to another saga. I miss that about you. The elders were given a paper that laid out their duties, that mostly consisted of protecting, encouraging, and blessing the senior pastor. Thats what happens to us as individuals and us as a collection of people. I praise your decision to own your ministry outside of James. This is hardly a local issue in the Western church. Lina, In addition to leading Harvest, MacDonald acquired a massive evangelical following through his books, Bible studies, and Walk in the Word radio program, with more than a million fans on Facebook. While every major financial decision was supposed to be examined and approved by the churchs eldersand it was claimed that this was casethis was not actually happening. Nellie, please dont be taken in by putting people on a pedestal (very sad.) However, James is not the same person he was when he began that church and if he was to continue leading it, he would hurt countless others. I choose to stay through this pain because, for me, leaving would create a wound that would never really heal. Will James not wake up and realize that the Church of Jesus Christ is not the organization or nonprofits we create, but the men and women that God calls and saves by the sacrifice of His Son? Thanks for writing this, Lina. - October 16, 2020 The protracted dispute between Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) recently concluded through arbitration. Still, things seemed off. How long will we wait to begin the healing process within ourselves and between each other? I left Harvest about a year before you did, and I also stayed, for the most part, silent out of the same fear you described. It also had a church-planting network, Harvest Bible Fellowship (HBF), which MacDonald dissolved last year. She will be one of many many many many who come forward so if you dont like it, dont read. Isnt this just what the enemy of our souls would want? It was love at first sight!! Leaving without speaking up was still an act of cowardice and self-preservation. Please have your Passports Ready. Mike Winger Discusses When God Hardened Pharaohs Heart, Tennessee Church Showcases Tyre Nichols Photography, Louisiana Pastor Sentenced to 5 Years in Money Laundering Case Involving Nearly $900K in Stolen Funds, Steven Curtis Chapman First Contemporary Christian Artist To Earn 50th No. So great to see your support with your wise comment. Matthew 7:15: Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Scripture does not say what the mark was, but it was a mark that man knew as a sign to not to kill Cain, as it would end his life, and end the judgement that God had given Cain to live out his life with. No unfortunately I have not seen your web page. And still some came because their loved ones and spouses have abandoned the faith completely and now refuse to go to church and they long to understand why. He lists grievances against Harvest including a false narrative in financial matters, a hostile takeover, shunning our family, the wrongful seizure of the ministry assets returned to him in the recent arbitration, and a vicious but unsuccessful strategy to end our ministry permanently.. So often, you would open your home to us. It was an extremely long and difficult decision to finally leave (we did our best to leave peacefully with the good of Christs church in mind) knowing very well that our reputations and many of our friendships we had there would be severely if not permanently damaged. I have nothing bad to say about Harvest. see My Dream Church https://sites.google.com/site/mydreamchurch/. He claimed he would never return to Willow until things had changed and the time was right. In Jesus precious name. That is why we keep talking. I am aware that there has been some very good ministry done through this church. Nellie, Your comments are without sound knowledge of the depth of this I am SO glad that Lina has allowed the grace of Christ to free her from the culture of fear that controls Harvest Bible Chapel, and I am impressed by her willingness to speak in such as grace-giving way that will speak freedom to others who are hurting from this. Thank you, Lina. Harvest numbers 13,000 attendees across seven locations, and the church began affiliating with the Southern Baptist Convention in 2015. Finally, we have landed at a church with a passion for others, our hearts have healed and by going there I was introduced to your bible study Resolved. It completed my healing. Over the summer, they agreed to try to make a joint statement and start the process of relational reconciliation, the Harvest elders said, but the efforts didnt pan out. Fear is dead life a remnant of Satan. Your sister in Christ in Auburn, Indiana. Lina, According to Roys extensive research and interviews, changes didnt occur at Harvest; instead, questionable treatment and practices continued. In a statement, the elders apologized to MacDonald and the congregation for the ways they had failed to live at peace with all men, as far is it depends on you (Rom. Mahoney and Bryant shared concerns about Harvests financial dealings, and provided a platform for other former Harvest members, who accused MacDonald of a controlling and abusive leadership style and pointed to an overall lack of accountability for MacDonald at Harvest. This is not an endorsement of the culture at Harvest because its total trash, but you cant blame them for you bad theology choices. Others will be hurtit is a matter of time. I am sure that was very hard for her to share . Leaving spiritual abuse is okay, you cant be expected to change it while youre in the midst of it. Our Elders and Staff are committed to fulfilling our fiduciary duty as the leadership of this congregation, knowing that at times the outcome may be misunderstood or emotionally painful, the elders statement read, promising a more detailed plan for the churchs future in coming weeks. He clearly told me that they send out reminders to give. We are wounded and grieving. When we left, after having posted a letter to the elders, not a single person called us to see how we were doing. My experience was decades ago and in another state. Pastor James teaching seemed so Biblical. God bless you. I never understood why they saw him the way they do. I am staying because with all the faults in the organization, the people of Harvest are my family. He invitedme to go when we first started dating. Your daily news briefing from the editors of CT. Im grateful that the sin of James and the elders/staff who allowed his tyranny to prosper is finally coming to light, so that the abuse can come to an end. Is this an informed opinion? But I hope the healing can begin, and I hope the abuse will stop.. Through it all, our relationship with Christ was strengthened all the more. The elders and pastoral board have created a team called Harvest 2020 to conduct a complete review of what happened, and of the church. It is a cry to the current leadership, to evangelicalism at large that there are some very serious problems that need to be dealt with. Our cold hearts lack love that shows the world we are His. When a person is afraid of the reaction of their pastor or preacher it is time to move on. Again I dont blame James MacDonald. Thankful for the freedom you have found and are willing to speak up. Their letter covered MacDonalds self-promotionlove of moneydomineering and bullying abusive speech[and] outbursts of anger.. I was mortified. God has said that those who are give much is required. You are open to correction, feeling hurt when it comes. James MacDonald founded Harvest Bible Chapel in 1988. At my former church, I reached the point where I couldnt, in good conscience, stay because of the amount of bull-headed spiritual abuse that was going on combined with covering-up of sexual abuse. No church is, because they are all filled with sinners like us. But dont shame others who speak up. I regret staying at Harvest after that meeting with the elders. A worship song says He gives and takes away, He gives and takes away, and still my heart will say Blessed be the name of the LORD!. Read the Old Testament. 3:48. I questioned a particular sermon that clearly was unbiblical but no one else did. The unrest at Harvest began in the fall of 2013, when two elders were excommunicated and another was indirectly censured, Roys writes. After leaving Harvest no one from the church reached out to me to see how I was doing, to ask why I left. Your mission and your ministry is beautiful and changing lives. Something happened to us some years ago and a number of people turned against us because of lies, etc. Praise and Worship is congregational: God is sifting His church! James has all the characteristics of a false teacher. In one fellowship people were actually warned to have nothing to do with us, and yet all we had done, in each instance was to ask questions. New to Harvest and my faith in Christ, I didnt know what was going on and still kinda of unclear of all the details. Blessings to you! Despite recent legal cases and reports of greedy abuses, experts say the longstanding benefit remains safe. My blog had indirectly undermined James. Those who step out of line are often dismissed. If Harvest and James can answer that, without focusing merely upon what they do, it would be helpful. The leader of that church, John Secrest, was blindsided by the news and asked Harvest elders to reconsider allowing MacDonald to preach there. While many in the congregation were willing to give it a second chance, some members raised concerns about many of these individuals closeness to MacDonald, and their willingness to cover for him for so long. You have to leave before you can see clearly. We repent, forgive and are reconciled; we do not get even, hold grudges, refuse to forgive, or destroy innocent bystanders caught in the wake of it all. Wow Nancy K, after all that has been said and done, seemingly over many years, it is startling to me that you would make such a commemtWow, Why? Opt out of televised preaching? Harvest and MacDonald had a contentious separation last year, when he lost the position he held for 30 years over inappropriate comments and harmful conduct stemming from his legal battle with people investigating the church. 1 Song. It is a really strange thing when persecution comes from the pastor and elders. My first two books were scheduled to be released smack in the middle of that summer, and I didnt want to impact their potential not to mention that James had agreed to write the forward on my first book.. first Bill Hybels. She put words to my feelings and I am truly blessed by them. or is it the congregations fault for being weak and gullible? Fear is never a godly way of governing. On Tuesday, Chicago shock jock and one-time friend of MacDonaldMancow Muller aired a series of clips featuring someone who sounds like MacDonald making offensive comments. I am no one special here. I have since moved on and seen God do some pretty amazing God-sized miracles in my life and ministry (evidently, God does work outside of the walls of Harvest Bible Chapel!). The fruit by which JM is to be judged rather is that of his own true m.o. I have been looking for a church like this for years. Im sorry that the doctrine that youve been taught says that life is about being kind and nice, rather than about being good. Such a good post Lina. You are speaking the minds of the many who did not stand up to James as they felt at the time, based on fear of public shame, and damage to career, to stick their heads in the sand and not speak up. Thankful we got left when we did. Because Jeff is still lying to peoples faces with a smug grin as recently as Saturday night. Thank you. While tens of thousands flocked to campus, school officials met in a storage closet to make decisions that would honor what is happening.. I was there when Ted launched. I kept thinking people would wake up and see the truth and understand that my leaving was not a betrayal to James but a stance against his leadership style, and the leadership style of the XLT, and James sons, and most of the remaining elders. Ross, Ross, What is strange about your concern about your own fear is I have been of thee opinion that Pastor James must have been ruled by his own fear-fear of losing influence and the fear of losing his ministry. Amen to that. Stephanie Martin, a freelance writer and editor in Denver, has spent her entire 30-year journalism career in Christian publishing. So I called one of the elders in the video and got his side of the story. The culture of fear is real, soo much so I dont feel comfortable giving my name as some will know me. A year or so before leaving Harvest I had written a blog post about holiness in which I had referenced the growing fad of tattoos in our culture. Sheri coordinates data collection and assists with day-to-day office administration for the church staff. HARVEST EN ESPAOL is available in person on Sundays at 11:00 AM in Cornerstone. Even before the 58-year-old pastors sabbatical, MacDonalds role at Harvest had shifted. James said it many times himself, chose to sin, Bless you! I dont take joy in this situation, but I rejoice in the truth. In Him, *Strong Bad: Just for the record, in all kindness Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. You also restrained and could have said much more and didnt. Oh Kristy, Thank you so much for expressing exactly what I am feelingsuch sorrow, such heartbreaking sorrow. Muller, who has attended Harvest for five years and developed a friendship with MacDonald, wrote in a Daily Herald op-ed that hed seen the best the church had to offer: MacDonalds punchy sermons renewed Mullers faith, brought his family back into Christian community, and taught him the truth of the gospel. God used him mightily for many years and brought His salvation to thousands through this brother. Thank you for coming forward! All why surrounding himself w/yes men. DIRECTIONS & INFO | . Sunday Service-10:15 AM/Wed. than submission to leaders Thank God the early Christians stood firm and did not run away from troubles. thanks, it seems to me that people give more grace to the offender than the victim. We just determined to treat the circumstances as a loving God giving us a different direction. Its so fitting that you likened the pain at Harvest to the pain of a divorce. Lina isnt hanging Harvest Bible Chapel. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); LIVING WITH POWER MINISTRIES: 119 S EMERSON ST. #213 | MOUNT PROSPECT, IL 60056 | 224-634-6777 | [emailprotected]. Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists, Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists, Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, revealed material obtained under subpoena, called into Mancow Mullers Chicago-area radio show. The small church that I and my family left was a textbook case in spiritual abuse. The problem definitely doesnt end with James. This pastor couldnt have been more wrong. Thank you and thank Lina. There are larger lessons to be learned. We dont know each other, but I found this via Julie Roys Twitter. Looking sideways (practical love): In fact, even though there is no patents or rights given to the Bible every man-made church that has plagiarized, promoted or used the Bible without the expressed consent of Jesus Himself or the authority of His church begin their ministries as thieves. I was asked what I would do if I were still on staff through the last 2 years. You are courageous and your words bring healing. In the midst of efforts to reconcile with longtime critics, Harvest Bible Chapel fired its founder and senior pastor James MacDonald for engaging in conduct contrary and harmful to the best interests of the church.. I regret my own weaknesses, my love for the approval of others. Jesus desires mercy and not sacrifice. She is free to speak of her experience, nothing mean about that. The moment I read about someone saying something about planting child pornography on the Christianity Todaycomputers, I knew I had to figure out what the heck was going on. In her expos, titled Hard Times at Harvest, Roys details evidence from former Harvest elders, employees and members that show an ongoing pattern of relational and financial abuse, a lack of transparency and outright deception., Harvest strongly disputes the claims, saying Roys has an unhealthy fixation on the church and failed to uncover the desired scandal.. I never worked at Harvest under Pastor James, I never wrote a book, I never had any altercation with Pastor James, and never had a complaint about him. Even if the criticism in the letter had been unwarranted, this response is a huge red warning sign. The only hope is to totally exposed and excise it so that all will not be consumed. 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Nellie, Do not judge the timing, Gods timing is Always Perfect. Thank you Lina, These are the same elders that approved this same law suit to be dropped when James and co. knew that they would have to open all the books and all the dirt would come out! Im about to lead a teaching tomorrow night about the mark God placed on Cain after he killed his brother Abel. If so Id be in agreement but again- this is not a political post. They never acknowledged that they had done anything wrong. It took months to get over the hurt he caused my husband and I. In my lowly position, I have said, like others, I would have put my head in the sand and continued to do the job God gifted me to do in the interest of the body. [] While only a handful showed up, the range of their pain was wide. Do you see any fruit from him of what God speaks of? This all happens when we gather, grow and go together as followers of Jesus. Constantly made to feel stupid, the youth had had enough so the mom called a meeting with the pastor. Because there are others that need to also be held responsible. This is why NOW. Thank You for writing your blog. I feel like I cant trust my own judgment any more. Two years ago, MacDonald moved away from overseeing the Harvest Bible Fellowship, a global network of churches, which eventually separated from Harvest completely to form the Great Commission Collective (GCC). When I asked questions at the Harvest I attended I was told to be careful what I read on the internet. In announcing MacDonalds termination, Harvest elders stated they are committed to fulfilling our fiduciary duty as the leadership of this congregation, knowing that at times the outcome may be misunderstood or emotionally painful. Nellie-What you might not know. May God bless you for speaking truth and standing in the gap for those of us who dont have the circle of influence that you have. Too many of these large churches have lost track of what their true purpose is. Be very careful Azaelea. Dont stop trusting or loving. It describes participative worship thats all the music you need. Harvest Bible Church is a non-denominational, non-charismatic, evangelical Protestant church located in Northwest Houston in the Cypress community. I was wrong in hindsight. He was a ruler of his churches. Like in Ezekiel, many people are trying to sound the trumpet of warning!! The Pastor started teaching on obeying your authority and not questioning authority etc. But, thats my opinion. You are brave and you did the right thing! They have gone the deep end of the pool. I do have cds and dvd of contemporary Christian artists. What she shared was the kindest message I have ever seen. Ken Morgan so you continue to deny the evidence for a creator by your superior intellect ? I have never attended Harvest. We attended Harvest for 16 years before we left little over 4 years ago. The Rolling Meadows Campus is our founding campus and for more than three decades has testified to God's faithfulness. Thanks for being so honest. Why kick him and the church while their down Lina? In keeping with our past private statements to Harvests leadership and to our pastorsThe primary issue is not reconciliation or peacemaking, it is repentance, GCC elders said in a January 17 statement. I am now going to read the rest of your post. This past Sunday, Harvests elders and remaining pastors were in serious damage control mode. They made excuses for him. Truth is healthy. If you ever make that offer again, Ill be there, but please post on Twitter. for what its worth, the timing of the writing is His perfect timing. It is loving to tell the truth. FEAR is a liar, pray for them and never let offense take you out, that was the enemys plan! Hes a lemonade maker. Fear that your leaving would damage those you ministered to. All Rights Reserved. Your realness. According to Harvest, their agreement resolves all claims and issues and releases them from future legal matters over the arbitration terms. And the truth of many at Harvest. With so much gaslighting going on and public take-downs of those who would speak truth to power, and your investment in the church industrial complex, I can imagine how difficult it wouldve been to speak out publicly at the time of your leaving. I have found that churches built through a single persons vision are dangerous. Persecution or hardship drew them close. maybe its time for all of us to wake up. Faith is Christ living. Also note how the apostle Paul called out Peter publicly when Peter was indulging in hypocrisy! We cant judge the HEART of others, we can judge their actions and behaviors. These three men had then joined six other former eldersthese men had all left Harvest entirelyin writing and sending a letter to the current elder board raising concerns about MacDonalds leadership. Many many of us are praying for all of you in Naples. Less well known was that these individuals agreed to leave Harvest aloneto stop publicly criticizing the churchin exchange for a promise that the current elder board would enact changes. Do you not remember that God used His Chosen to reveal the sin of not only churches, in the New Testament, but also to Kings in Old Testament. I thought something was off but had only my own suspicions to go on as we were told not to criticize. this isnt meant to hurt you but to support those who need it. I hope that you are recovering well, for you have added a vital piece of information. God IS in control and knows what he is doing. One person (not from Harvest) asked if I needed to call the church to cancel my membership. Hoping you come back and teach a book of the Bible. Its who you are! Biblical: submission to the Word in My Dream Church will be at a higher level While I have no say in the future of Harvest, it is ridiculous to think that any healthy future can take place until the cancer is removed. Maybe people could handle hearing it better now than then. Sheri and her husband Gary attended Cornerstone in the 1980s while attending Azusa Pacific and in their first few years of marriage. Let us pray God will send His Spirit upon us and cure us of this. Five Uncomfortable Church Documentaries Still Worth Watching, Asbury Announces New Service ScheduleCampus Will Be Closed to the Public After Today, Eight Witnesses Testified Against Hillsong Founder Brian Houston in Court Case. My first two books were scheduled to be released smack in the middle of that summer, and I didnt want to impact their potential not to mention that James had agreed to write the forward on my first book. Because ultimately what God wants is not a huge army of women who are nice. We need to trust Him. God has this situation in his hands he wasnt surprised by it. Its been over a year and a lot has changed at Harvest and a lot sill needs to change. It was engaging at times. For you to step back and taken ownership of your piece in the large (very large) puzzle, is a humility and grace only Jesus can provide. MacDonald is not being kicked while hes down. All of it. As questions about how Harvest Bible Fellowship money was used ballooned, the pressure mounted. Even before the Garden of Eden seduction, he foresaw the need for The Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. Your leaving (however late you feel it was) was His provision for others, much like Joseph sent ahead to Egypt years ahead of his brothers and father. He stopped going to any church and says he has lost faith in everything. This young lady has done the work and is doing the work of the great physician. Your truth was not conceived in fasting or deep prayer and it sure isnt loving. 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